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	<title>Comments on: Guess Who Won?</title>
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	<description>Saying `just one game' they began to play . . . That was yesterday.</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Romain</title>
		<link>http://www.361points.com/blog/2008/01/10/guess-who-won/#comment-4566</link>
		<dc:creator>Romain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried many things but I couldn't find a good solution yet.

Yes, the way stonebase is showing the game is quite disturbing. However, I don't know if it comes from the software or the game record...

The only good solution for now is to use Windows and a Korean account.

To be continued...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried many things but I couldn&#8217;t find a good solution yet.</p>
<p>Yes, the way stonebase is showing the game is quite disturbing. However, I don&#8217;t know if it comes from the software or the game record&#8230;</p>
<p>The only good solution for now is to use Windows and a Korean account.</p>
<p>To be continued&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sorin</title>
		<link>http://www.361points.com/blog/2008/01/10/guess-who-won/#comment-4522</link>
		<dc:creator>Sorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Romain: indeed, stonebase opens files saved by Cyberoro, including these "sgf" files. 
It doesn't show more than a few moves, though - it stops working for the variations. Also, the variations themselves are funny: it's like repeating tens of times the same sequence of moves; maybe the difference lies in the comments, but I cannot tell for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romain: indeed, stonebase opens files saved by Cyberoro, including these &#8220;sgf&#8221; files.<br />
It doesn&#8217;t show more than a few moves, though - it stops working for the variations. Also, the variations themselves are funny: it&#8217;s like repeating tens of times the same sequence of moves; maybe the difference lies in the comments, but I cannot tell for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Romain</title>
		<link>http://www.361points.com/blog/2008/01/10/guess-who-won/#comment-4519</link>
		<dc:creator>Romain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to work with stonebase ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to work with stonebase &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Romain</title>
		<link>http://www.361points.com/blog/2008/01/10/guess-who-won/#comment-4518</link>
		<dc:creator>Romain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not try in fact but I can try.
What I did last time was to decode the file from Korean text encoding and translate it to UTF-8 then load it with an appropriate software, however there might be easier solutions... I'll keep you informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not try in fact but I can try.<br />
What I did last time was to decode the file from Korean text encoding and translate it to UTF-8 then load it with an appropriate software, however there might be easier solutions&#8230; I&#8217;ll keep you informed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorin</title>
		<link>http://www.361points.com/blog/2008/01/10/guess-who-won/#comment-4510</link>
		<dc:creator>Sorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Romain.
Indeed they look like commented game in SGF format, except that it's not quite SGF: both Drago and CGoban choked on 2 files that I tried.
MoyoGo Studio loaded both, but it only shows a few moves (10 or so), and then the variation tree shows what looks like a lot of fuseki variations (judging by the coordinates), but they are not being displayed on the board.

Did you have any luck actually viewing the commented SGFs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Romain.<br />
Indeed they look like commented game in SGF format, except that it&#8217;s not quite SGF: both Drago and CGoban choked on 2 files that I tried.<br />
MoyoGo Studio loaded both, but it only shows a few moves (10 or so), and then the variation tree shows what looks like a lot of fuseki variations (judging by the coordinates), but they are not being displayed on the board.</p>
<p>Did you have any luck actually viewing the commented SGFs?</p>
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		<title>By: Romain</title>
		<link>http://www.361points.com/blog/2008/01/10/guess-who-won/#comment-4492</link>
		<dc:creator>Romain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorin : Instead of the board icon, click on the "TV" icon = "생중계 다시보기".
On the linked page you can get what I assume to be commented games.
The link "플레이" (="play") gives access to the commented game. 
Since it is not working without the cyberoro plugin, just copy this link (right click copy link address) and get rid of useless information.

Example the game we were talking about should be here :
http://open.cyberoro.com/gibo/200801/20080110_13.SGF

Hope it helps and I don't misunderstand this Cyberoro feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorin : Instead of the board icon, click on the &#8220;TV&#8221; icon = &#8220;생중계 다시보기&#8221;.<br />
On the linked page you can get what I assume to be commented games.<br />
The link &#8220;플레이&#8221; (=&#8221;play&#8221;) gives access to the commented game.<br />
Since it is not working without the cyberoro plugin, just copy this link (right click copy link address) and get rid of useless information.</p>
<p>Example the game we were talking about should be here :<br />
<a href="http://open.cyberoro.com/gibo/200801/20080110_13.SGF" rel="nofollow">http://open.cyberoro.com/gibo/200801/20080110_13.SGF</a></p>
<p>Hope it helps and I don&#8217;t misunderstand this Cyberoro feature.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorin</title>
		<link>http://www.361points.com/blog/2008/01/10/guess-who-won/#comment-4476</link>
		<dc:creator>Sorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gustav: it would be very useful if you can add links (to either Go Topics, or to SGF files, or ideally both) in your feed items.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gustav: it would be very useful if you can add links (to either Go Topics, or to SGF files, or ideally both) in your feed items.</p>
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		<title>By: Gustav</title>
		<link>http://www.361points.com/blog/2008/01/10/guess-who-won/#comment-4475</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorin wrote: I have already built [a feed for Go Topics] at http://www.361points.com/kifu/news/

Aha, I had missed that one! Thanks, it works great. I had tried creating a feed for the detailed pages too but I couldn't make the simple Feed43.com transformation rules provide anything useful. The one feed I managed to create was just for the summary page with title matches only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorin wrote: I have already built [a feed for Go Topics] at <a href="http://www.361points.com/kifu/news/" rel="nofollow">http://www.361points.com/kifu/news/</a></p>
<p>Aha, I had missed that one! Thanks, it works great. I had tried creating a feed for the detailed pages too but I couldn&#8217;t make the simple Feed43.com transformation rules provide anything useful. The one feed I managed to create was just for the summary page with title matches only.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorin</title>
		<link>http://www.361points.com/blog/2008/01/10/guess-who-won/#comment-4451</link>
		<dc:creator>Sorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Romain: thanks for clarifying.
The viewer doesn't work on Windows either, so I suspect it has to do with us not having Cyberoro Korean accounts (or missing some browser plugin). Anyways, it's good to know they link to the SGF directly.

I was kind of hoping that there is some index into the SGFs for easy searching, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

Also, I didn't find the sgfs with comments that you mentioned, just a bare one - can you please point me to a link to a commented sgf? I cannot read Korean, but usually the variations themselves are self-explainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romain: thanks for clarifying.<br />
The viewer doesn&#8217;t work on Windows either, so I suspect it has to do with us not having Cyberoro Korean accounts (or missing some browser plugin). Anyways, it&#8217;s good to know they link to the SGF directly.</p>
<p>I was kind of hoping that there is some index into the SGFs for easy searching, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to be the case.</p>
<p>Also, I didn&#8217;t find the sgfs with comments that you mentioned, just a bare one - can you please point me to a link to a commented sgf? I cannot read Korean, but usually the variations themselves are self-explainable.</p>
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		<title>By: Romain</title>
		<link>http://www.361points.com/blog/2008/01/10/guess-who-won/#comment-4447</link>
		<dc:creator>Romain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hum I just clicked on the link you gave and at the bottom of the article there is a little link 관련기보 (with a board logo).
It opens a window with I think a viewer but i wasn't able to see anything, perhaps because I'm using Linux.
Therefore I searched into the code of the webpage and found the sgf link.

Also it seems there are links to sgf with comments (in Korean).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hum I just clicked on the link you gave and at the bottom of the article there is a little link 관련기보 (with a board logo).<br />
It opens a window with I think a viewer but i wasn&#8217;t able to see anything, perhaps because I&#8217;m using Linux.<br />
Therefore I searched into the code of the webpage and found the sgf link.</p>
<p>Also it seems there are links to sgf with comments (in Korean).</p>
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