Guess Who Won?
In the 3rd game of 6th Jeongganjang Cup, Lee Sula 1-dan of Korea played against Aoki Kikuyo 8-dan of Japan.
I don’t know for sure who won since Go Topics hasn’t published the game record yet and I cannot read Korean… but I have my own theory about the result, given the following photos:
(By the way, behind Aoki Kikuyo one can see Jujo).
January 11th, 2008 at 1:19 am
Just confirming that Aoki did indeed win. Also, caption: “졌지만 잘 싸웠다!” = “Even though you lost, you fought well!”.
January 11th, 2008 at 1:41 am
Are you looking for this http://media.cyberoro.com/gibo/200801/080110-jkj-aoki.sgf
The problem is I cannot decode the Korean so I cannot read the names, do you know who is white ?
January 11th, 2008 at 1:50 am
White was Aoki Kikuyo. She won by 9.5 points.
January 11th, 2008 at 5:47 am
Hi Sorin,
First, thank you for a great blog!
With “Go Topics”, are you referring to the pages under http://igo-kisen.hp.infoseek.co.jp/topics.html and http://igo-kisen.hp.infoseek.co.jp/news.html ?
They are truly a great service for us English speakers. Mr KIN deserves some kind of award.
Maybe some of your readers are interested in an RSS feed I created for the “Go Topics” page: http://feed43.com/go_topics.xml
Regards,
Gustav
January 11th, 2008 at 9:03 am
Is it common to let a 8d play in the 2nd row? I thought, in such team matches the last board is supposed to be the strongest, the one before the second etc.
However, I hope we hear again about Lee Sula.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Solomon: thanks, now I finally know who won
Romain: thanks for the game record! How does one find SGFs on the cyberoro website, by the way?
Gustav: thanks for sharing your feed for Go Topics. I have already built one at http://www.361points.com/kifu/news/ but it’s not including the game results, just links to the title pages. I guess it’s back to parsing HTML for me now that I have competition
anon.: No idea what the tournament rules are, I imagine each country had some qualification tournament which may have decided the order as well.
January 14th, 2008 at 4:09 am
Hum I just clicked on the link you gave and at the bottom of the article there is a little link 관련기보 (with a board logo).
It opens a window with I think a viewer but i wasn’t able to see anything, perhaps because I’m using Linux.
Therefore I searched into the code of the webpage and found the sgf link.
Also it seems there are links to sgf with comments (in Korean).
January 14th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Romain: thanks for clarifying.
The viewer doesn’t work on Windows either, so I suspect it has to do with us not having Cyberoro Korean accounts (or missing some browser plugin). Anyways, it’s good to know they link to the SGF directly.
I was kind of hoping that there is some index into the SGFs for easy searching, but it doesn’t seem to be the case.
Also, I didn’t find the sgfs with comments that you mentioned, just a bare one - can you please point me to a link to a commented sgf? I cannot read Korean, but usually the variations themselves are self-explainable.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:54 am
Sorin wrote: I have already built [a feed for Go Topics] at http://www.361points.com/kifu/news/
Aha, I had missed that one! Thanks, it works great. I had tried creating a feed for the detailed pages too but I couldn’t make the simple Feed43.com transformation rules provide anything useful. The one feed I managed to create was just for the summary page with title matches only.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Gustav: it would be very useful if you can add links (to either Go Topics, or to SGF files, or ideally both) in your feed items.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:27 am
Sorin : Instead of the board icon, click on the “TV” icon = “생중계 다시보기”.
On the linked page you can get what I assume to be commented games.
The link “플레이” (=”play”) gives access to the commented game.
Since it is not working without the cyberoro plugin, just copy this link (right click copy link address) and get rid of useless information.
Example the game we were talking about should be here :
http://open.cyberoro.com/gibo/200801/20080110_13.SGF
Hope it helps and I don’t misunderstand this Cyberoro feature.
January 19th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Thanks Romain.
Indeed they look like commented game in SGF format, except that it’s not quite SGF: both Drago and CGoban choked on 2 files that I tried.
MoyoGo Studio loaded both, but it only shows a few moves (10 or so), and then the variation tree shows what looks like a lot of fuseki variations (judging by the coordinates), but they are not being displayed on the board.
Did you have any luck actually viewing the commented SGFs?
January 19th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
I did not try in fact but I can try.
What I did last time was to decode the file from Korean text encoding and translate it to UTF-8 then load it with an appropriate software, however there might be easier solutions… I’ll keep you informed.
January 19th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
It seems to work with stonebase …
January 19th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Romain: indeed, stonebase opens files saved by Cyberoro, including these “sgf” files.
It doesn’t show more than a few moves, though - it stops working for the variations. Also, the variations themselves are funny: it’s like repeating tens of times the same sequence of moves; maybe the difference lies in the comments, but I cannot tell for sure.
January 23rd, 2008 at 2:36 am
I tried many things but I couldn’t find a good solution yet.
Yes, the way stonebase is showing the game is quite disturbing. However, I don’t know if it comes from the software or the game record…
The only good solution for now is to use Windows and a Korean account.
To be continued…